The following is the response in the Dutch magazine Trouw of Fatih Dag, strongman of the Dutch Milli Görüs branch responsible for building the mosque:
He [Fatih Dag] would find that "very stupid". "I will then immediately call for a demonstration. A bus [with demonstrators] from every Milli Görüs mosque in Europe, that's going to be busy you know. I haven't tipped Al Jazeera, but it will certainly get a whiff of it, and I will speak to them. This is going around the whole arabic world, I brace myself for the backlash. All muslims have a satellite disc, so they see how a magnificent muslim project is forbidden here. Don't forget: we started out here with some Turks, but after all the objections it has become quite something for a lot of muslims in Europe. I expect among them an uprisal, of course (sic) within legal bounds,but still: our people are more emotional than you, Europeans. And there may be a madman among them." Is that a threat? "No, it is insight in how sensitive this issue is. I worry about that."
What has happened is that:
a.) Shortly after the symbolical first stone laying on March 20, 2006, the two strongmen of the mosque project were shoved aside. First the chairman of the local Milli Görüs branch, Haci Karacaer, who resigned "because he was tired". Then it was the turn of moneymaker and businessman Üzeyir Kabaktepe , who, it seems, had to go because of the German branch, which is (not so) secretly pulling the ropes behind the whole project. Of course, given Europes experience with "liberal" muslims, it is not too far fetched Kabaktepe was as liberal as someone who favors throwing gays off buildings instead of burning them to death.
b.) Exit Karacaer and Kabaktepe, enter Fatih Dag. Immediately upon arrival, it became clear that Dag's new Milli Görüs staff had AND close ties with the Milli Görüs HQ in Koeln, Germany, AND that he had no interest anymore in following the "liberal" line promised by Kabaktepe. Indeed, the main reason the Dutch building association "Het Oosten" and Amsterdam Mayor Job Cohen (a jew) had given their full support for the project was that Kabaktepe & Co. had promised the new mosque would herald the grandiose start of "the international renewal of islam". By the way, the multiculti fata morgana had been so convincing that two gullible jewish architects had been found willing to design the mosque in the first place. When Fatih Dag made it clear that the Westermoskee would definitily NOT follow a progressive course, the relation with "Het Oosten" and mayor Cohen worsened. A silly attempt by the Amsterdam City Council was made to "assure" themselves that the new mosque board would still follow the "liberal" course, whatever that may have meant, and to unconditionally cut all ties with the German branch of Milli Görüs, by proposing a Declaration of Intent to be signed by all parties. Dag signed... and kept visiting Yavuz Çelik Karahan, Chairman Milli Görüs Germany.
c.) Another element undermining the credibility of Milli Görüs is a fraudulous scheme whereby countless ordinary Turks had been duped for possibly millions of euros by a dubious Pyramid Game organised by so-called "Green Funds" [islamic funds - note by MFBB] and offered by Milli Görüs. Explains Fatih Dag: "Maybe we offered some office space for that, but it [the Pyramid Game] never happened under our authority. Only one of the curent Board members had links with the game. We investigate that now. He will likely (sic) resign.... the guilt lies with my predecessor [Kabaktepe] and his board."
d.) The gist of the Trouw article is that by the time that "Het Oosten" and Cohen realized what a Trojan Horse of islamic radicalism the Westermoskee would become, they wanted to get rid of the whole project - and Milli Görüs' Pyramid Game scandal came in just handy to stop the whole thing.
e.) The worst of all is that apparently both Cohen and "Het Oosten", probably struggling to find a way to get out of the whole affair without the stigma of having gullibly allowed islamic radicals in, blundered in providing Milli Görüs with an exit mechanism for "Het Oosten" - read, it seems that Milli Görüs can legally buy "Het Oosten" out of the whole project. In their despair, both the building association and Cohen probaly thought that if they could convince the public they were no longer involved, they could not be blamed for the Westermoskee becoming some kind of madrassah.
f.) Fatih Dag answer: "I won't go away." ... "We are going to build the whole area full ourselves. Apartments, parking garages, commercial spaces and the mosque. We pay those 6.2 million euros [the exit sum needed to buy "Het Oosten" out - MFBB] and say: "Bye bye, Het Oosten. You can sod off." The Trouw article says laconically: "Building association Het Oosten was yesterday unavailable for comment."
g.) On May 19, 2007, Fatih Dag issues his infamous threat, see above.
And how do things stand today, August 1st, 2007? For the moment, the whole affair seems to be in limbo - which is not a good sign. Keep in mind that in March, the city neighborhood council of "De Baarsjes" did issue a building permit, although at the same time it started an investigation into the Pyramid Game fraud. Because of Milli Görüs' financial troubles and the negative publicity, it is unlikely that building activities will start this year, but next year? What is certain is that the whole affair has - once again - cast a very bad light on the reliability and credibility of the muslim organizations when dealing with local authorities. Time and again the latter herald with great fanfare another fantastic initiative - based on mutual respect of course -meant to "build bridges" amongst the different communities, only to find out they have been cheated and lied to. One and a half year after a beaming Piet Hein Donner laid the first stone for what was to become a model project for a tolerant islam, the "bridges" are blown up and not exactly by Jan Klaas, building corporation "Het Oosten" does not want to have anything to do anymore with the mosque itself, "only the apartments" [good luck with that, idiots - MFBB], and the guys at the steering wheel are extremist muslims in a Koeln, Germany HQ.
The Westermoskee is but one amongst a great many mosques being built in Europe. Unlike their predecessors, they are now highly visible, with domes and minarets. Of this so-called "third generation" mosque, Germany can "boast" 159, and a further 184 are under construction. An overview of the political affiliation of the mayors in all the localities where these builing projects have either been completed, are underway or else being considered, almost reads like a membership list of the socialist party. Amsterdam: Job Cohen, PvdA (Dutch Socialists); Londen: Ken Livingstone (Labour); Haarlem (The Netherlands): Bernt Schneiders, PvdA (Dutch Socialists); Aachen (Germany): Juergen Linden, SPD (German socialists). The latter, upon issuing the building permit for his city's mosque, even proudly proclaimed the advent of the mosque "that Muslims have become a part and parcel of society." Only they haven't. Or at least not in the way gullible fools like Linden would like them to be. They think the increasingly visible mosques will help integration. The opposite is true. Many of these mosques are built, as we have seen in the case of the Westermoskee, with adjacent and even surrounding apartment blocks. Those who think that indigenous Dutch, Spaniards, French or Germans will hurry like madmen to procure these flats because they like so much to be awakened by the call of the muezzin at 5 o'clock in the morning, are ludicrous fools. The apartments will be inhabited by muslims, period. Even in localities where there is no place for an ambitious building scheme around the mosque, the dome and minarets invariably attract muslim-oriented facilities and shops, like e.g. in Mannheim, where the Yavuz Sultan Selim I-mosque and its surrounding centers and - dare we say it - soukhs, now attract thousands of muslims: a purposefully created muslim-only community. A much more realistic view was offered by Borough of Newham Councillor Alan Craig, of the Christian Peoples Alliance , who at the occasion of the building plans for London's megamosque "Markaz"-project remarked:
“I am concerned about the community and security impact of the mosque…although permission has not yet been given, Muslims are moving into the area in preparation. The Savile Town area of Dewsbury where Tablighi Jamaat is currently based is now more than 90 per cent Muslim. This part of London has always been a very diverse community and that is how it should be kept. We can't have one group taking over."
The Markaz mosque is a gigantic monstrosity which will, if built, be able to accommodate 70,000 worshippers. It is actively supported by London's mayor Ken Livingstone, who coincidentally happens to be a socialist. The organization behind the project is Tablighi Jamaat, to which the would be Glasgow bombers had ties.
It is tempting to see this sudden surge in highly visible mosque buildings as part of some hidden policy, and unfortunately, many indicators do indeed point in that direction. Not for nothing Msgr. Georg Gaenswein, Pope Benedict's secretary, stated last July that "Attempts to Islamize the West cannot be denied..." The danger for the identity of Europe that is connected with it,” he said, “should not be ignored out of a wrongly understood respectfulness." And if it wouldn't be bad enough to find out that this attempt at islamization was the work of "local" muslims, unfortunately there's growing proof that it is stimulated, if not coordinated, from the muslim world itself. Saudi Arabia has long been known as a financier of muslim centers across Europe, one notorious example being the Saudi-funded King Fahd Academy in Cologne, Germany - a breeding place for hatred of everything the West stands for. But then take a look at the financiers of the planned Cologne Mosque itself, which is scheduled to offer place for 2,000 worshippers and will have two 170-foot minarets. It will be funded by Diyanet İşleri Türk İslam Birliği (DITIB), a branch of the Turkish government's Ministry of religious affairs... Who financed the Freimann Mosque in Muenchen, southern Germany? Libya. (notice that this is possibly the Muenchener mosque which is under poice surveillance because of its ties to extremists). The proposed new mosque in Sendling, also in Muenchen? To be financed by DITIB again. Can you imagine a European Ministry of Religious Affairs - assuming such a folly could exist here - financing a newly to be built church in, say, Egypt? Of course you can't. But here we have coordinated attempts by foreign governments to interfere in the religious life of ethnically related population groups living abroad. And not only in the religious life. The Moroccan Interior Ministry issues a list with first names where Moroccan parents living abroad have to choose the names for their newborns from. The so-called Amazigh names, or names from pre-islamic times, are haram - forbidden. If parents do choose these names, their children will not be regarded by the Moroccan state. It is indeed true that Morocco keeps regarding children born off Moroccan parents as Moroccan state citizens - even if they are third generation immigrants elsewhere. In the meantime useful leftist idiots keep blabbering about integration, reaching out to other faiths and other nonsense.
As the reporter from the Dutch magazine Trouw entered Fatih Dag's office for an interview, he remarked a gleaming silver plaque emblazoned with the heraldic symbol of the Ottoman Empire above the door. Fatih Dag said to him: "The weapon of the Ottoman Empire - I am not a nationalist you know, but I like it."
Fatih Dag and his Board have long since stopped speaking about their mosque as the Westermoskee. To them, it's going to be the Aya Sophia Mosque.
We don't want to fight
but by Jingo if we do,
We've got the ships,
we've got the men,
we've got the money too